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Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:39 am
by narrativedilettante
BlackWolfe wrote:Remember, we're not looking for Jacob Marley, but a person or character involved with the ARG who would be a good fit for the role of Mr. A's former partner/ally, and whose appearance would defy what he knows to be true. (For example, someone he knows has either been refictionalized or killed.)


Hm. Maybe Zack Wallnau? Or, maybe, Sherlock Holmes? Holmes was working for/with Mr. A.

The suggestion of Ace before this one was also decent. The problem there, though, is there's no reason Ace wouldn't be able to show up. Zack at least quit and wouldn't be showing up to talk to A, though he would be capable of doing so.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 11:52 am
by Qara-Xuan Zenith
Well, Ace did get fired. So that would be a reason to expect him to not show up.

Or I think we discussed Fast Eddie for this? Or was he for something else?

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:10 pm
by BlackWolfe
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:Well, Ace did get fired. So that would be a reason to expect him to not show up.

Or I think we discussed Fast Eddie for this? Or was he for something else?


Fast Eddie is going to be the charity collector. Picture Mr. A saying "IS THERE NO TROPE WORKSHOP? NO CUTLIST?"

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:44 pm
by Scarab
BlackWolfe wrote:
Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:Well, Ace did get fired. So that would be a reason to expect him to not show up.

Or I think we discussed Fast Eddie for this? Or was he for something else?


Fast Eddie is going to be the charity collector. Picture Mr. A saying "IS THERE NO TROPE WORKSHOP? NO CUTLIST?"


Jesus, rthat's just fantastic

Well I PMed you a more direct response to your comment earlier, hope I provided useful input. Do you reckon it'll be long before we can start auditions? Keeping in mind, we may be missing a few people over the Xmas period.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:23 pm
by BlackWolfe
I'm thinking of going Holmes for Marley, rather than Ace. Holmes being fictional, and in fact having been refictionalized, lets me tie him in to the beginning of the story - Remember that in the story, one of the proofs given that Marley is dead is that Scrooge signed off on the death certificate as a witness, and that if there was one thing that could be said in his favor, anything Scrooge put pen to could be trusted. Mr. A selects the refics. Mr. A reports their success. Mr. A is the authority on Refics.

As to your PM, I think we're definitely on the same page. I'll be working on the story itself while I'm away from wifi today. I'd like it if you could condense the salient points of that exchange down for this thread, to keep participants on the same page?

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:07 am
by Scarab
BlackWolfe wrote:I'm thinking of going Holmes for Marley, rather than Ace. Holmes being fictional, and in fact having been refictionalized, lets me tie him in to the beginning of the story - Remember that in the story, one of the proofs given that Marley is dead is that Scrooge signed off on the death certificate as a witness, and that if there was one thing that could be said in his favor, anything Scrooge put pen to could be trusted. Mr. A selects the refics. Mr. A reports their success. Mr. A is the authority on Refics.

As to your PM, I think we're definitely on the same page. I'll be working on the story itself while I'm away from wifi today. I'd like it if you could condense the salient points of that exchange down for this thread, to keep participants on the same page?


Hey, a good possible suggestion might be the Metaguard Angel. After all the ghost of christmas past is often pictured as a young female child, which would fit with Angel's overall design (also, um... she uh.. IS actually dead now. It might be a fitting tribute.)

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:08 am
by Scarab
Please watch this space as I MAY announce the opening of the auditions for Mister A and the Narrator later on TODAY (GMT) as these roles are guaranteed roles and don't need negotiating or planning out. The other characters will open within a few days.

We are aware everyone will be busy over christmas, please don't panic about getting it done too quickly. You will have at least a week. Organizing this is... gonna take a bit of doing.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 8:26 am
by The Wild West Pyro
Scarab wrote:Please watch this space as I MAY announce the opening of the auditions for Mister A and the Narrator later on TODAY (GMT) as these roles are guaranteed roles and don't need negotiating or planning out. The other characters will open within a few days.

We are aware everyone will be busy over christmas, please don't panic about getting it done too quickly. You will have at least a week. Organizing this is... gonna take a bit of doing.


We understand perfectly.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:13 am
by Genndy Oda C.O.G.
Scarab wrote:Please watch this space as I MAY announce the opening of the auditions for Mister A and the Narrator later on TODAY (GMT) as these roles are guaranteed roles and don't need negotiating or planning out. The other characters will open within a few days.

We are aware everyone will be busy over christmas, please don't panic about getting it done too quickly. You will have at least a week. Organizing this is... gonna take a bit of doing.

I am quite excited. :gurt: :D :) ;) 8-) :mrgreen: Hence the smiles.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:21 pm
by RotavatoR
I'm in, guys. Like most others, I will be happy with any lines in the script, and I will certainly try to audition for the bigger roles (should buy a better microphone). Also, what is the story in essence? I mean, to which extent can others still change things in the story?
Scarab wrote:And that would have to happen in the gap between the defeat of Cthulhu, and the end of the world sooo um, basically in a timeframe of a SINGLE day.

What does the defeat of Cthulhu have to do with this? I'm confused again x3

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:22 pm
by Scarab
RotavatoR wrote:I'm in, guys. Like most others, I will be happy with any lines in the script, and I will certainly try to audition for the bigger roles (should buy a better microphone). Also, what is the story in essence? I mean, to which extent can others still change things in the story?
Scarab wrote:And that would have to happen in the gap between the defeat of Cthulhu, and the end of the world sooo um, basically in a timeframe of a SINGLE day.

What does the defeat of Cthulhu have to do with this? I'm confused again x3


It's the Christmas Present sequence.

BW has better details of the story which he's elaborated on overhead, so just scroll back a bit. He puts it better than I would :) I'm just an editor.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:22 pm
by RotavatoR
Thanks, I think I got the Cthulhu thing now.

Also, what about Cheshire as Marley? He is the fictional who has had the most direct interaction with A by far. Also, he has been refictionalized already (so that fills that requirement) and he is the most spirit-like of all the fictionals.

And let me get this straight: The bad future is Deanna taking over the role of A as a result of A not listening to us? Because it's really hard to piece together the whole story by what is scattered everywhere in this topic. I'm still not sure how much influence we have on the story either >.<

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:43 pm
by JackAlsworth
I would so completely love to try out for either of those things. Seriously.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:44 pm
by Scarab
RotavatoR wrote:Thanks, I think I got the Cthulhu thing now.

Also, what about Cheshire as Marley? He is the fictional who has had the most direct interaction with A by far. Also, he has been refictionalized already (so that fills that requirement) and he is the most spirit-like of all the fictionals.
And let me get this straight: The bad future is Deanna taking over the role of A as a result of A not listening to us? Because it's really hard to piece together the whole story by what is scattered everywhere in this topic. I'm still not sure how much influence we have on the story either >.<


I rather like that idea, Rota. Cheshire would be both a fun character to see in the role and for somebody to play, and he really gets on A's nerves sooo :lol: Definitely suggesting that to BW!

Yes I'm a little unclear as to the details myself. BW already went into a bit, if you read upwards. So far as I understand it, the defeat of Cthulhu goes smoothly, as it did in real life, but the Instantations remain distant, as BW said:

Quote wrote:Present: As I said, it's fantastic that the end of the ARG falls so neatly within the holiday season. We can focus on Metaguards celebrating victory as well as the holidays, and our frustration at his dismissal of celebration as "FRIVOLOUS, UNNECESSARY EXPENDITURE OF ENERGY" or some-such.
Future: It's most important that the dire future we set out for the story be a result of Mr. A's attitude towards people, both fictional and real. Because in the end, what Scrooge learned in the original was less about Christmas and more about being human:


So in layman's terms: Mister A's inability to understand human traditions and customs is linked to his refusal to understand our relationship to fiction (in a way fictionals and christmas are related, because both rely on human beings' obsession with things which are not 'real', but hold a great deal of value to us; things Mister A does not udnerstand and is dismissive of). If you look back at Mister A's ealier videos his prejudice towards fictionals is blatantly clear. He sees fictionals as things to be controlled, and the wall as a force to hold them back. So long as his desires are met, he doesn't care about HOW it's done.

We've already seen how his behaviour sometimes grated on us, partly because he just couldn't understand us, and partly because he really just didn't always TRY to. That leads to distrust, which means when a big crisis happens (for example, part of the wall DOES fall,) Mister A loses allies, is killed, and replaced by one who presents a better solution - in this case Deanna (please note, extreme leaders are a lot more likely to get into power during extreme circumstances because. That's how Hitler got into power, for example, of course Deanna is still a creepy, creepy person and we'll have to think a bit to make that plausible). If Mister A had trusted people more and been more honest with them from the start (and also listened to their warnings about Deanna) he might have avoided his fate, and thus avoided the entire bad future.

Aaaand now I've evoked Godwin's law, I'll get back to trying to figure out this audition process

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:45 pm
by Genndy Oda C.O.G.
JackAlsworth wrote:I would so completely love to try out for either of those things. Seriously.

All in good time. We must wait for the announcement from Ms. Scarab first.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:48 pm
by JackAlsworth
But I wanna know nooooow D:

(More seriously, I wasn't sure I had made my interest in these roles clear earlier.)

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 5:00 pm
by Scarab
JackAlsworth wrote:But I wanna know nooooow D:

(More seriously, I wasn't sure I had made my interest in these roles clear earlier.)


We know, and we're really glad for it :) Sorry for the delays, we're just trying to pull together what exactly we're doing. It is, after all, christmas, BlackWolfe and I are both in completely different timezones, and his job is tough on him (as is mine right now, but at least I don't have to work nights), he has to work writing in around it, so please give him time :)

He hopes to have the story ready for auditioning in it's entirety by Christmas Eve! As for the auditions I promised... juuust give me a couple of hours, I'm working on it.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:11 pm
by Scarab
We are aware that as this game will soon complete and at some point, the boards will be locked. At which point this entire process will move to the new fan forum as will be created by Pixelmage. Until then we WILL be opening the Mister A and the Narrator auditions here.

Let me assure you that so long as we get the submissions and the manpower, this project will go ahead. The only problem we have right now is knowing where to HOLD the audition process. It may not be wise to start here while knowing that the board could very well be shut down mid process.

See this is our problem: We don't want to open auditions here in case we get shut off right smack bang in the middle, but we also don't want to risk losing people who WOULD have applied for parts in the interim between this chatroom locking, and the new fan one opening. This is also, obviously a very bad time for a lot of people with, you know, the biggest holiday in the many peoples calender about to take place


I ask everybody who wants to be involved PLEASE CONTACT ME OR BLACKWOLFE DIRECTLY THROUGH the CHRISTMAS CAROL CHATROOM ASAP so that you can give us your email, and we can give you one of our own.

For those who need a reminder, the regular chatroom in all it's chaotic glory is here: http://www.neatchat.com/?id=9a68ee6b19e ... 9b99493e6e

The Christmas Carol centric chatroom is here (it may be more straightforward to go there): http://www.neatchat.com/?id=448786a1a57 ... 427635e469

Discussion regarding the Christmas Carol will take place via the Christmas Carol chat linked above. If you have something to say, wish to leave an audition, or suggest something else, please do so there. Blackwolfe and I WILL see it when we next log in and check the previous messages.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 6:41 pm
by Scarab
The first audition sheet for Mister A and the Narrator has been posted:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=836&p=35984#p35984

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:35 pm
by BlackWolfe
RotavatoR wrote:Also, what about Cheshire as Marley? He is the fictional who has had the most direct interaction with A by far. Also, he has been refictionalized already (so that fills that requirement) and he is the most spirit-like of all the fictionals.


O_O

:gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt: :gurt:

Fortunately, that scene was causing hangups, and replacing my original idea with Metaneko resolves many of them.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:41 pm
by BlackWolfe
If anyone wants to see this fic as it grows into the monstrosity it will eventually become, a version is being kept on Google Docs.

I'm writing it locally and copying it up a chunk at a time, so what's there won't be the absolute latest and greatest of the story until the whole thing is officially done done.

Here's the link.

Edit: So apparently you need the /edit at the end of the URL. Fixed.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:47 pm
by Pixelmage
The link is going into a blank document for me.
And the previous one you linked in the chatroom was locked to authorized people only.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:51 pm
by BlackWolfe
Pixelmage wrote:The link is going into a blank document for me.
And the previous one you linked in the chatroom was locked to authorized people only.


Fixed now.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:48 am
by Endless Sea
Oho, am I going to enjoy this.

Re: A Metaguard Christmas Carol

PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:19 am
by The Wild West Pyro
Scarab wrote:The first audition sheet for Mister A and the Narrator has been posted:

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=836&p=35984#p35984


I :D and :) and :lol: at the Poking Each other with Carrots thing.