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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby agoraoptera on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:53 pm

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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Sicon112 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:55 pm

Aaaaaaaaaaand there is my next post. I'm BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK! :twisted:

I allowed Eye for Destruction to sit idle for the first turns in order to excuse me taking a little damage. Trying to make this as fair as possible, which still isn't very fair. However, it is now active once more, and combined with my concept sight, my character is now aware of the basic extent of agora's powers and has a guess as to the significance of the bone growth. Before anyone says that, that was not meta-gaming, that was merely my previously stated abilities kicking in. He is not aware of the entirety of what is going on, as well, so there are plenty of tricks you can pull still.

Also, while technically I should just be able to create a field to destroy stuff, I'm actively purging the plague from my system instead. Again, trying to make this more fair. In the big picture, that doesn't do very much at all, but I can at least acknowledge your abilities this way.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Sicon112 on Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:02 pm

Oh, and now that I've launched us into the air, let's have a two turn fight across the tops of the flying rubble! XD

Yeah, it's totally over the top, but it would be fun. If you want to, just go ahead and post about fighting in the air and I'll come back with the segment where we land, I guess. If not, well, I can see why. :lol:
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Sicon112 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:32 am

Agora go boom.

When responding, keep the time constraints in mind. If you are trying to do something that takes more than a second... well you're outta luck. Still, I sent your guy off towards the door at the end, since you wanted to go there. That means you can get through first and describe the chamber.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Sicon112 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:47 am

A couple interesting physics notes for those interested. When I say I disintegrate the rocks behind me, what I'm really doing is inducing nuclear fusion inside them. This flagrantly violates conservation of mass, which is something I do a lot, in case you hadn't noticed. The molecules slam together, fuse, and release some of their former mass as energy in various forms. That takes away some of the original mass of the rock completely. However, whatever results from the fusion, plus whatever was too big to be fused, remains, though not in a cohesive whole as before. In fact, due to the heat involved in this process, anything that remains is probably in a gaseous state, which it remains in for a few seconds as it quickly reverts back to its natural state at this temperature and pressure, causing stray particles of various random substances to be spread widely across the battlefield.

End visible result: Identical to disintegration, so I just described it as such.

Secondly, I landed in an interesting way. When an object with mass is flung at a surface, say the ground, at a certain velocity, that object exerts a force on the ground that varies with its mass and velocity. That is probably obvious. However, Newton's Laws say that when said object exerts that force on the earth, the earth exerts that force right back. That opposite reactive force is what hurts like hell when you fall too far, and what breaks your bones. However, if I just siphon off all the forces involved then I'm fine, right? Well, not quite. Otherwise I'd start falling THROUGH the earth. So, then I just siphon off all of the force EXCEPT the Normal Force, a force that the earth exerts on me that is equal to the force I exert on it while standing on its surface. Therefore, I land with no force whatsoever, and just seem to stop suddenly as I land.

The kinetic forces involved in such a sudden stop will also affect my organs and whatnot, but as my internals move out of place, the force they exert on the rest of my body is absorbed and therefore they remain motionless as a whole, leaving me to feel only a tiny jerk, and get nearly two times the kinetic energy my fall possessed. Aren't self powered characters awesome?
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Pixelmage on Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:02 am

Well, Since Tera didn't argue about it and the fight is now pretty much over, I guess there's no harm in pointing it out.
Sicon, biology dictates that infections like these are hosted within body cells. If you can claim "Third Eye!" to discriminate between the infection and and your cells at atomic level (which is god level power on itself), you didn't activate it for the first part of the fight when you got infected, thus, you'd be bursting out with bone or exploding yourself actively for it, meaning you'd either kill yourself or cause a paradox due to your own explosion immunity.

That's to say nothing that with the Eye, you're a counter and the fight is a free win no matter how much you stall it, which is quite simply a boring read.

Of course, you can say real biology wouldn't make you die from the infection fast enough to be a problem in the fight, but, since you said yourself that you're ignoring Entropy a debate like that would be utterly pointless. Either full science applies or it doesn't, if you pick what laws you obey there's no reason for a discussion at all.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Sicon112 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:07 am

Pixelmage wrote:Well, Since Tera didn't argue about it and the fight is now pretty much over, I guess there's no harm in pointing it out.
Sicon, biology dictates that infections like these are hosted within body cells. If you can claim "Third Eye!" to discriminate between the infection and and your cells at atomic level (which is god level power on itself), you didn't activate it for the first part of the fight when you got infected, thus, you'd be bursting out with bone or exploding yourself actively for it, meaning you'd either kill yourself or cause a paradox due to your own explosion immunity.

That's to say nothing that with the Eye, you're a counter and the fight is a free win no matter how much you stall it, which is quite simply a boring read.

Of course, you can say real biology wouldn't make you die from the infection fast enough to be a problem in the fight, but, since you said yourself that you're ignoring Entropy a debate like that would be utterly pointless. Either full science applies or it doesn't, if you pick what laws you obey there's no reason for a discussion at all.


Actually, his method of delivery for the infection was supposed to be "magical". His magic, as I covered in character, is mainly based around a death of disease concept. Therefore, he is actualizing his concept on my body. My concept detection ability then allows me to detect this invasion, and destroy it as it tries to advance further. The damage from it remains. I am not EXPLODING THINGS here. I'm actualizing my destruction concept itself, which I CAN do on physical objects, but my explosions have much more range AND AoE, two things I do NOT want while targeting specific cells. However, every time I attack, I'm too busy to actively wipe out further infection, so after every attack segment the plague manages a little more damage. Therefore, my survival time was increased compared to normal people fighting agora, but due to the fact that I left my abilities off at the first and took damage, I'm already at a physical disadvantage, something I was going to actualize as the loss of a turn every now and then, such as now, which you will see in my next post.

Finally, we have already covered that this fight is one-sided. It was never going to be anything else. I am a natural counter to agora and both of us are already aware of this. My abilities are highly offensive, focusing on AoE, while he is vulnerable to AoE. I am capable of resisting his plague, thus extending the time needed to kill me. We discussed this a while ago, and decided that it probably wouldn't be very interesting because it would just be me chasing a fleeing agora and blowing up everything trying to kill him, and him waiting till I run out of power and hopefully fall to his plague.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby agoraoptera on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:24 am

For the record, 'magical' isn't the only method of delivery. Plagues are entirely physical, not me actualising any concept. I don't do concept-based powers.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Pixelmage on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:29 am

Sicon112 wrote:His magic, as I covered in character, is mainly based around a [word] concept. Therefore, he is actualizing his concept on my body. My concept detection ability then allows me to detect this invasion, and destroy it as it tries to advance further.

Well, that would be a complaint from me, you can use that sentence to counter anything you want to. But, that's more of a character sheet issue than a thing with the fight, so w/e. Unless you actually outright say something works like you did with magic, you can refer to the sentence above and shrug it off. And even Tera's plague which he Ninja'd me above, you are assigning to that sentence. So yeah, it makes you pretty much invincible unless you throw the fight out of your own desire.

Other than that, yeah. I get that both of you were aware that this fight was your win from the start, which is why I didn't say anything before now. I just wanted to point out that I do see that you're abusing loophole inside loophole inside loophole, which makes you essentially unbeatable, even though you don't need to.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Sicon112 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:41 am

It's another instance of something that happened in the fight with Goliath and Borogove. Mimsy's character saw the power of Gaia as "Aether" concept, because that idea was closest in his mind to what Gaia was. Similarly, the idea of a concept of death is closest in my character's mind to what agora is, namely a optimized plague bearer, with all of his abilities focused on delivering or supporting his plagues through magical and semi-magical means. This is similar to my own character, who has an ability set ENTIRELY devoted to physically destroying things. Therefore, he identifies agora's magic, or things created by it, as bearing a concept of death. This ONLY works on characters that are SUPER focused on one thing. Example: Eli is an alchemist. She has NO concept. I have zero bonuses to see or detect her power. Another example: Endless' Alaki wield elemental magic. Again, my concept sight is useless. YOUR late character used Personas, so against SOME of their ability sets I would be able to gain an ever so slight detection bonus, but it's so small I wouldn't even bother putting it in.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Endless Sea on Thu Jan 24, 2013 12:55 pm

Well, if you want to get technical, my concept would be nature or magic or something, but okay then.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Qara-Xuan Zenith on Thu Jan 24, 2013 1:21 pm

I'm not expecting something like "make zombies throw spears" will work. But it is funny. Also, I AM EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :twisted:
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Victin on Thu Jan 24, 2013 3:42 pm

Sicon112 wrote:It's another instance of something that happened in the fight with Goliath and Borogove. Mimsy's character saw the power of Gaia as "Aether" concept, because that idea was closest in his mind to what Gaia was. Similarly, the idea of a concept of death is closest in my character's mind to what agora is, namely a optimized plague bearer, with all of his abilities focused on delivering or supporting his plagues through magical and semi-magical means. This is similar to my own character, who has an ability set ENTIRELY devoted to physically destroying things. Therefore, he identifies agora's magic, or things created by it, as bearing a concept of death. This ONLY works on characters that are SUPER focused on one thing. Example: Eli is an alchemist. She has NO concept. I have zero bonuses to see or detect her power. Another example: Endless' Alaki wield elemental magic. Again, my concept sight is useless. YOUR late character used Personas, so against SOME of their ability sets I would be able to gain an ever so slight detection bonus, but it's so small I wouldn't even bother putting it in.

Wouldn't his concept be plague? Or pestilence? Because that makes much more sense...
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Sicon112 on Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:07 pm



I could have done that, not sure why not, just didn't want to. Instead, it's not a sub concept of death that is essentially death by plague. Whatever. Amounts to the same anyway. That's just what I wrote, and I'm making up the whole fight as I go...
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby AMimsyBorogove on Fri Jan 25, 2013 5:57 pm

:gurt: Will post soon.

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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Scarab on Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:06 pm

AMimsyBorogove wrote::gurt: Will post soon.

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Dude. They could've at least swapped the colours on the nerv emblem so that it was just white shapes against the red, and used the right font for the poster and...

I'll shut up and go hide under my desk now (because desks have historically proven themselves to be wonderful at repelling Mimsy's writing...)
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Endless Sea on Fri Jan 25, 2013 6:22 pm

...I am now convinced Mimsy is either a SEELE member, an EVA, or an Angel. Which means he's either a cyborg or some huge-ass nonhuman monstrosity.

Makes sense, actually.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby AMimsyBorogove on Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:09 pm

Unfortunately, Third Impact will have to wait until I can consult Victin on how effective it's going to be. Don't want to godmod, so...

Well, whatever.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Victin on Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:07 pm

I have only one thing to say about Mimsy's lastest post: the creators of that game should get the Oscar of animation. All of them.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby AMimsyBorogove on Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:17 pm

Game? If you mean those pictures/GIFs, the first two were from Neon Genesis Evangelion - which my post was a massive shout out to - and the third one was from Fullmetal Alchemist - Brotherhood.

On another note, my bio update is COMPLETE! My new weapon, the Sword of Hisou, has been added to the bio, which has been reposted on page two for your facepalming convenience.

Naturally, the sword is from Touhou. I mean seriously, what did you expect?
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Endless Sea on Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:18 pm

...Mimsy, why'd you post your character sheet again?
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby AMimsyBorogove on Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:20 pm

Because there was an update to it. See previous post. It was more convenient to put it where people would see it instead of leaving it on the first page.
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Endless Sea on Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:20 pm

Then why not edit the old character sheet?
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby AMimsyBorogove on Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:41 pm

Because it was on the first page where people wouldn't see it?
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Re: Virtual War Observation Deck

Postby Endless Sea on Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:39 am

...oh holy crap Agora. o_o
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