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Doesn't Victin still need to edit?

Pixelmage wrote:Just my 2 cents... I think it EXTREMELY UNLIKELY that Isaac can simply stand around and be safe the whole fight until after the Sabrac move... Binding is a Real Time Roguelike... You'd be dead by going to the bathroom with the game running. And the room is going to hell here. And the knights are from there so...

Actually, it's not a roguelike like most of them. After cleaning a room, the room is empty forever. You wouldn't even need to pause the game. And it's not hard (for good players) to pass through rooms full of enemies without taking damage, because in any other way, they would die. Also, I didn't realize I was god-modeing because I was in a hurry. I thought that if I took long enough, you guys would be annoyed and I was going to have stuff to do. So I didn't realize that the part in which I was attacking Borogove was god-modeing. But I could just PM'ed him and asked him about it, and if he agreed, it would be okay.

Also, I was being generic. It's not like I didn't know that Sabrac would fight mooks or not. I don't think that is god-modeing. But attacking his brother is, because since he can fly, even with the place where he is being generic (like, I didn't put him where I want him to be), he could be flying. So I will take away the part where I put the bomb and so on, assuming that Sabrac killed all the mooks, so I don't have to fight. Don't staying the whole fight unscratched and unseem by the enemies was the reason I put that (and since they are enemies, it wouldn't be god-modeing, but since it happens in the future, it is).

The new rule would be: You can only react to the events that happened prior to your post. If you want to interact with a character that will post after you, PM him.

Yea, but you need to edit it to say you try to attack me AS THE BATTLE BEGINS, otherwise you are still god-modeing just like with my brother.

Sicon112 wrote:Yea, but you need to edit it to say you try to attack me AS THE BATTLE BEGINS, otherwise you are still god-modeing just like with my brother.

Can't I just wait until the end? (Okay, having my character unscrathed and unseen is boring, but I want him to change his archetype, and due to Rule of Fun he can only do that hidden. Suggestions?)

Also, OP changed.

Victin wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:Yea, but you need to edit it to say you try to attack me AS THE BATTLE BEGINS, otherwise you are still god-modeing just like with my brother.

Can't I just wait until the end? (Okay, having my character unscrathed and unseen is boring, but I want him to change his archetype, and due to Rule of Fun he can only do that hidden. Suggestions?)

Also, OP changed.

If you attack at the end, you are god-modeing me, because I need to be there to be attacked. If you attack just as it begins, first explain how the hell you plan on doing it when, as I have stated previously, I am thirty feet in the air riding a pillar of flame with a second wall of flame between us, and then get sidetracked just as you begin.

Sicon112 wrote:

Victin wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:Yea, but you need to edit it to say you try to attack me AS THE BATTLE BEGINS, otherwise you are still god-modeing just like with my brother.

Can't I just wait until the end? (Okay, having my character unscrathed and unseen is boring, but I want him to change his archetype, and due to Rule of Fun he can only do that hidden. Suggestions?)

Also, OP changed.

If you attack at the end, you are god-modeing me, because I need to be there to be attacked. If you attack just as it begins, first explain how the hell you plan on doing it when, as I have stated previously, I am thirty feet in the air riding a pillar of flame with a second wall of flame between us, and then get sidetracked just as you begin.

So I think I didn't understand your Stigma attack. Also, how couldn't you don't be there? I said I would attack you after you killed the monster, that doesn't stop you from doing anything after. And sice it didn't succeded, it doesn't control your character.

Canged my post. Go check it. Also, who's next? Borogove or Xana?

Victin wrote:So I think I didn't understand your Stigma attack. Also, how couldn't you don't be there? I said I would attack you after you killed the monster, that doesn't stop you from doing anything after. And sice it didn't succeded, it doesn't control your character.

OK, look, the time to attack me at the end of the battle is your NEXT turn. Feel free to do so, if you still actually WANT to after what I'm about to do. Until then, react to what is happening NOW.

About Stigma, I never actually used it. I just set up the AoE component and then let it sit so that I could trigger it at any time. The knights and stuff showed up then, so I just let it turn off again.

Victin wrote:Canged my post. Go check it. Also, who's next? Borogove or Xana?

The post still has you attacking my brother AND attempting to move at me! None of the problems are solved! It's a turn too early. Do all this stuff NEXT round, it's perfectly acceptable then! Do something else in the meantime!

Sicon112 wrote:

Victin wrote:So I think I didn't understand your Stigma attack. Also, how couldn't you don't be there? I said I would attack you after you killed the monster, that doesn't stop you from doing anything after. And sice it didn't succeded, it doesn't control your character.

OK, look, the time to attack me at the end of the battle is your NEXT turn. Feel free to do so, if you still actually WANT to after what I'm about to do. Until then, react to what is happening NOW.

About Stigma, I never actually used it. I just set up the AoE component and then let it sit so that I could trigger it at any time. The knights and stuff showed up then, so I just let it turn off again.

Rephrasing: I think I didn't understand whatever attack was that you used, with the magic circle around you and all.

Also, I didn't attack you. I was going to. It's different, time-wise. I can still move for your position, but I can't attack you. And my current target is your brother. I PM'ed him and everything is fine. He just wanna know if it's his turn or Xana's.

Victin wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:OK, look, the time to attack me at the end of the battle is your NEXT turn. Feel free to do so, if you still actually WANT to after what I'm about to do. Until then, react to what is happening NOW.

About Stigma, I never actually used it. I just set up the AoE component and then let it sit so that I could trigger it at any time. The knights and stuff showed up then, so I just let it turn off again.

Rephrasing: I think I didn't understand whatever attack was that you used, with the magic circle around you and all.

Also, I didn't attack you. I was going to. It's different, time-wise. I can still move for your position, but I can't attack you. And my current target is your brother. I PM'ed him and everything is fine. He just wanna know if it's his turn or Xana's.

Vic, buddy, the problem here is that you are attacking after Sicon's turn before he has made it.

Victin wrote:Rephrasing: I think I didn't understand whatever attack was that you used, with the magic circle around you and all.

Also, I didn't attack you. I was going to. It's different, time-wise. I can still move for your position, but I can't attack you. And my current target is your brother. I PM'ed him and everything is fine. He just wanna know if it's his turn or Xana's.

Look, vic, you still say THIS:

With that though, Judas exitted the hole, and runned in the direction of the Red Man [[Sabrac]]. He saw that the man had just destroyed the Bats and the Knights that were attacking him, and thought that it were the perfect oppurtunitie.

That is the problem! If you do that next turn, everything is FINE! But this turn it just DOESN'T work. Couldn't you just think of something to do this turn, like attack a knight or two that get close?

Lordxana0 wrote:

Victin wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:OK, look, the time to attack me at the end of the battle is your NEXT turn. Feel free to do so, if you still actually WANT to after what I'm about to do. Until then, react to what is happening NOW.

About Stigma, I never actually used it. I just set up the AoE component and then let it sit so that I could trigger it at any time. The knights and stuff showed up then, so I just let it turn off again.

Rephrasing: I think I didn't understand whatever attack was that you used, with the magic circle around you and all.

Also, I didn't attack you. I was going to. It's different, time-wise. I can still move for your position, but I can't attack you. And my current target is your brother. I PM'ed him and everything is fine. He just wanna know if it's his turn or Xana's.

Vic, buddy, the problem here is that you are attacking after Sicon's turn before he has made it.

- Now I see it! The problem here is the moment in which I attack you, not the attack itself (note: I'm not attacking him, I'm walking). In my attempt to be generic and not god-mode, I ended up god-modeing, therefore it was blinding myself. I will change from "after he finished with his enemies" to "while he was finishing with his enemies"

Yeah. You're causing time-screw by saying you attack AFTER Sabrac finishes his doom combo of ultimate mayhem, but BEFORE Marisa attacks, which doesn't make any sense, since I post BEFORE Sicon does, thereby meaning...

Marisa Shot First.

'Nuff said.

In short, just say "Sabrac was floating off on his massive inferno of flames, making him unreachable, so you decided to attack the crazy laser-spamming witch instead, but then got caught by knights/Zubats/whatever." That would let me begin my post with some sort of epic Big Damn Heroes moment, which I could tie into the rest of my attack.

EDIT: Er... no, saying he's in the middle of his attack but I haven't done anything yet still results in time-screwage.

Victin wrote: - Now I see it! The problem here is the moment in which I attack you, not the attack itself (note: I'm not attacking him, I'm walking). In my attempt to be generic and not god-mode, I ended up god-modeing, therefore it was blinding myself. I will change from "after he finished with his enemies" to "while he was finishing with his enemies"

Just say you "move towards [me] as the monsters begin to fight the others". Don't say ANYTHING AT ALL about what I'm doing. Also, could you explain just what your character thinks he can do to a dude riding a thirty foot tall pillar of fire? I'm really curious.

AMimsyBorogove wrote:Yeah. You're causing time-screw by saying you attack AFTER Sabrac finishes his doom combo of ultimate mayhem, but BEFORE Marisa attacks, which doesn't make any sense, since I post BEFORE Sicon does, thereby meaning...

Marisa Shot First.

'Nuff said.

In short, just say "Sabrac was floating off on his massive inferno of flames, making him unreachable, so you decided to attack the crazy laser-spamming witch instead, but then got caught by knights/Zubats/whatever." That would let me begin my post with some sort of epic Big Damn Heroes moment, which I could tie into the rest of my attack.

EDIT: Er... no, saying he's in the middle of his attack but I haven't done anything yet still results in time-screwage.

This.

AMimsyBorogove wrote:Yeah. You're causing time-screw by saying you attack AFTER Sabrac finishes his doom combo of ultimate mayhem, but BEFORE Marisa attacks, which doesn't make any sense, since I post BEFORE Sicon does, thereby meaning...

Marisa Shot First.

'Nuff said.

In short, just say "Sabrac was floating off on his massive inferno of flames, making him unreachable, so you decided to attack the crazy laser-spamming witch instead, but then got caught by knights/Zubats/whatever." That would let me begin my post with some sort of epic Big Damn Heroes moment, which I could tie into the rest of my attack.

EDIT: Er... no, saying he's in the middle of his attack but I haven't done anything yet still results in time-screwage.

The events on your post happen in the same time frame as Sabrac's. Let me tell you about Homestuck how I think that everything is happening:

-1--2--3--4-

1. Monsters entry in the room. Sabrac and that girl whose name I forgot start to fight. Maggy peeks around.
2. Sabrac and the witch are fighting angainst some mooks. Judas starts running in Sabrac's direction.
3. Judas passes by the cow and chages direction. Now he is moving towards the witch.
4. Next post.

Victin wrote:The events on your post happen in the same time frame as Sabrac's. Let me tell you about Homestuck how I think that everything is happening:

-1--2--3--4-

[list=1][*]Monsters entry in the room. Sabrac and that girl whose name I forgot start to fight. Maggy peeks around.
[*]Sabrac and the witch are fighting angainst some mooks. Judas starts running in Sabrac's direction.
[*]Judas passes by the cow and chages direction. Now he is moving towards the witch.
[*]Next post.[/edit]

Actually, do to the fact that I am going to act in a time-frame noticeably after Marissa, it goes:

1: Mooks enter
2: Everyone before you acts, and then You do
3: Xana, then Marissa move
4: As everyone finishes their enemies, Sabrac takes action and kills what remains
5: GM post begins new initiative rotation.

Victin wrote:The events on your post happen in the same time frame as Sabrac's. Let me tell you about Homestuck how I think that everything is happening:

-1--2--3--4-

[list=1][*]Monsters entry in the room. Sabrac and that girl whose name I forgot start to fight. Maggy peeks around.
[*]Sabrac and the witch are fighting angainst some mooks. Judas starts running in Sabrac's direction.
[*]Judas passes by the cow and chages direction. Now he is moving towards the witch.
[*]Next post.[/edit]

The monsters don't enter the room until after Marissa and Sabrac have their spat (understatement FTW). You can't say they're fighting the mooks because they aren't yet. You can't describe their actions before they make them.

This means that as the combat opens, Sabrac is still standing motionless on his flame pillar and probably safe from attack for now. Chargign him seems like a weird idea, but if you insist on doing it, then say you do it just as the battle begins, but as far as talking about him goes just say "he stood motionless on his pillar watching everyone else fight". You can even excuse your charge by saying that you think HE summoned the mooks and your character then goes ragemode because he thinks Sabrac is attacking his saviours.

Sicon112 wrote:This means that as the combat opens, Sabrac is still standing motionless on his flame pillar and probably safe from attack for now. Chargign him seems like a weird idea, but if you insist on doing it, then say you do it just as the battle begins, but as far as talking about him goes just say "he stood motionless on his pillar watching everyone else fight". You can even excuse your charge by saying that you think HE summoned the mooks and your character then goes ragemode because he thinks Sabrac is attacking his saviours.

Again: what flame pillar? I didn't get exactly what you were doing.

It's not like you were watching. It's more like mooks can't teleport to where you are, so they must move to your position. That's exactly the same assumption you were making to my character.

Victin wrote:Again: what flame pillar? i didn't get exactly what you were doing.

It's not like you were watching. It's more like mooks can't teleport to where you are, so they must move to your position. That's exactly the same assumption you were making to my character.

Then you didn't read his last post - that there's the problem. Read it, then come back.

Victin wrote:

Sicon112 wrote:This means that as the combat opens, Sabrac is still standing motionless on his flame pillar and probably safe from attack for now. Chargign him seems like a weird idea, but if you insist on doing it, then say you do it just as the battle begins, but as far as talking about him goes just say "he stood motionless on his pillar watching everyone else fight". You can even excuse your charge by saying that you think HE summoned the mooks and your character then goes ragemode because he thinks Sabrac is attacking his saviours.

Again: what flame pillar? i didn't get exactly what you were doing.

It's not like you were watching. It's more like mooks can't teleport to where you are, so they must move to your position. That's exactly the same assumption you were making to my character.

I quote from my last post:

The tendrils of flame that had been crisscrossing randomly around his feet suddenly resolved themselves into a ring on the floor, and, with a blinding flash, exploded upward even as the dual wielder called out "Triangulate!" The shock wave the blast generated shredded the floor even further, hurling debris outward and knocking back those unprepared for it. As the flash faded, the boom of the explosion resolved into the roar of an inferno. Where Sabrac had stood there was now a pillar of flames reaching twenty or thirty feet in the air, and from the base of the maelstrom of fire rings of flame pulsed outward, feeding a second inferno that had sprung up in a circle between Sabrac and everyone else. The barrier of flames around the edge of the room rose and began to singe the cave roof, and above it all Sabrac looked down from where he floated atop the pillar.

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Make sure you know what everyone else is doing.

"What flame pillar?" Seriously?



The better question would be "WHICH flame pillar?"

Also, trust me, Sabrac is just gonna stand there emotionlessly watching you guys do all the work until someone starts pestering him, which, seeing as he is on a pillar of fire, is gonna take some time. So yea, he was just standing there watching.