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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby SpiritfChaos on Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:33 pm

Okay everyone, Dryunya's here, this shouldn't take long.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby JRPictures on Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:52 pm

SpiritfChaos wrote:Okay everyone, Dryunya's here, this shouldn't take long.

Yep, nothing can stop us now. 8-)
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Dryunya on Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:01 am

It would be easier if that thing said anything. :?
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:18 am

Dryunya wrote:It would be easier if that thing said anything. :?


OK, Dryu, aka Meta-Knight/Meta Master Puzzle Master/Meta Master Code Breaker/Meta Supreme Holy Hyperspace Future Gardener, do the best you can.

We have faith in you.

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Also, for those who don't have Twitter...

I am worried about waking up from this dream. When I wake up I won't be the same. Is changing anything like dying? I am scared of dying.

And then on the 24th...
I think I just forgot the day I was born. Doesn't seem like much of an issue after I forgot how to keep track of time.

And on the 25th...
Its starting to get harder and harder to remember who/what/where/why/when I am. I don't know if any of that really matters.

On the 26th, 12 hours ago...
My dreams are becoming even more broken now. I can see the gaps between images and the things I see are so much grander and so much smaller.

What I find curious is how he only posts one tweet per day.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Dryunya on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:00 am

Oh, I got an idea.
This is about the Coffee Room, right? I've never frequented it, but...

Hey, Matrx.
We got Green Stuff™.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Dryunya on Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:31 pm

For the record, it followed me on twitter just now.
Apparently, we can has lolcats.

UPD: The jpg has no metadata, no rarjpegs. Recoverable binary code is:
11001?0*
110010011001??011001*

01110011011000*
01110010011001*
01110011011000*
01*
01*

(? is one missing symbol, * - zero or more)
There may be steganographics involved, but that will have to wait until I get home.

Meanwhile, you tell me if the content itself rings a bell. He says he has been here before. And there is a cat. But I don't think Cheshire fits the profile - too technical.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:52 pm

Dryunya wrote:For the record, it followed me on twitter just now.
Apparently, we can has lolcats.

UPD: The jpg has no metadata, no rarjpegs. Recoverable binary code is:
11001?0*
110010011001??011001*

01110011011000*
01110010011001*
01110011011000*
01*
01*

(? is one missing symbol, * - zero or more)
There may be steganographics involved, but that will have to wait until I get home.

Meanwhile, you tell me if the content itself rings a bell. He says he has been here before. And there is a cat. But I don't think Cheshire fits the profile - too technical.


Translated it:
010000100110010100100000011100110111010101110010011001
010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110
100101101110011010110010000001111001011011110111010101
110010001000000100111101110110011000010110110001110100
01101001011011100110010100101110

By the way, I used this.
http://www.roubaixinteractive.com/PlayG ... o_Text.asp
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Scarab on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:05 pm

The Wild West Pyro wrote:010000100110010100100000011100110111010101110010011001
010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110
100101101110011010110010000001111001011011110111010101
110010001000000100111101110110011000010110110001110100
01101001011011100110010100101110


...Pyro, I don't know what you DID, and I'm no expert, but erm... but I don't think you can translate binary INTO binary. (Can you?)

What IS IT with us and cats? >.<
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:17 pm

Scarab wrote:
The Wild West Pyro wrote:010000100110010100100000011100110111010101110010011001
010010000001110100011011110010000001100100011100100110
100101101110011010110010000001111001011011110111010101
110010001000000100111101110110011000010110110001110100
01101001011011100110010100101110


...Pyro, I don't know what you DID, and I'm no expert, but erm... but I don't think you can translate binary INTO binary. (Can you?)

What IS IT with us and cats? >.<


...Erm, I did just that. Tried to translate binary into binary....WAAAAAAAIT...

I tried to translate it into text, and I got that.

And the cat bit? Well, it kind of started off with our friend Chessy...

Wait, stupid me! I copied the special message at the bottom of the page! GAH!

I'll try again, hang on a mo...

ANNNNND THIS:
Error: Malformed binary. Your binary code is must be divisible by 8.

I guess I'll try to follow Dryu's advice and replace the missing stuff with 0s or 1s.

UPDATE:
http://www.convertbinary.com/alphabet.php

Hmmm...

11001?0*
110010011001??011001*

01110011011000* S
01110010011001* R
01110011011000* S
01*
01*

I think Dryu is right...shorthand is involved...
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Victin on Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:17 pm

Actually Pyro, your binary into binary code translates to:

Matrx wrote:Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:26 pm

Victin wrote:Actually Pyro, your binary into binary code translates to:

Matrx wrote:Be sure to drink your Ovaltine.


WHAT?

WHAAAAAAAAAT?

I remember that message...on the new TF2 ARG, those numbers on the billboard translated into a parody...

"BE SURE TO DRINK YOUR JARATE!"

But never mind, that's not related.

Either there's a clue in the ingredients, the guy needs a drink, or...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdA__2tKoIU
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_decoder_ring
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Dryunya on Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:17 am

I tried to poke the image with steganographic tools and got nothing. I'm terrible with those, so I'll list what I actually did:
  • Skipped the tools that don't specify the algorithms they use.
  • Aimed for LSB and the like, because they are the simplest and the most common for applications like this one (the GM wants us to find the answer eventually, not spend our lifetime cracking it - there are countless other algorithms, most of which accept some parameters that increase the search space even further).
  • Tried to use OpenStego, which I recall was used to solve the last Cabal puzzle. Turns out, it only works on PNG, and converting the image (which, assuming perfect conversion, should retain the hidden message) still gives no results.

Of course, you are free to try it yourself. I liked the VSL kit (visually), but I'm not sure it even worked properly.

My conclusion is that there probably aren't any messages that are meant to be extracted with dedicated tools. To put it simply, unlocking it would require the exact same tools and parameters as locking it, which we can't know. There might be other, less formal ways to hide a message, which would require a notepad, photoshop, and squinting. :)

Also, this is just a hunch, but I think the binary is a red herring. Won't stop me from examining it later...
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Fri Feb 28, 2014 2:50 am

Dryunya wrote:I tried to poke the image with steganographic tools and got nothing. I'm terrible with those, so I'll list what I actually did:
  • Skipped the tools that don't specify the algorithms they use.
  • Aimed for LSB and the like, because they are the simplest and the most common for applications like this one (the GM wants us to find the answer eventually, not spend our lifetime cracking it - there are countless other algorithms, most of which accept some parameters that increase the search space even further).
  • Tried to use OpenStego, which I recall was used to solve the last Cabal puzzle. Turns out, it only works on PNG, and converting the image (which, assuming perfect conversion, should retain the hidden message) still gives no results.

Of course, you are free to try it yourself. I liked the VSL kit (visually), but I'm not sure it even worked properly.

My conclusion is that there probably aren't any messages that are meant to be extracted with dedicated tools. To put it simply, unlocking it would require the exact same tools and parameters as locking it, which we can't know. There might be other, less formal ways to hide a message, which would require a notepad, photoshop, and squinting. :)

Also, this is just a hunch, but I think the binary is a red herring. Won't stop me from examining it later...


Binary, as I learned, is very tough to decipher. Red herring? Could be, you have a point, but examine it just in case.

Or, like the Wall puzzles, it might become significant later. MUCH later.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Dryunya on Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:31 am

By the way, we are paying attention to the image itself, while the message it's attached to might mean something as well.
Matrx wrote:update 1 2 back forth update 1 2 step back update 1 2 here i am back forth step back here i am
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Victin on Fri Feb 28, 2014 10:40 am

Dryunya wrote:By the way, we are paying attention to the image itself, while the message it's attached to might mean something as well.
Matrx wrote:update 1 2 back forth update 1 2 step back update 1 2 here i am back forth step back here i am

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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Anura on Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:32 pm

Looks like I picked an interesting time to return. But I'll probably be about as helpful as last time, unfortunately. So unless Susie needs a little sister, there's not much I can do.

(oh, I think I also translated some of the Witch's quantum technobabble into plain english at one point, too, so there's that)
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Dryunya on Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:43 am

So, new post - this one is directed at me as a reply.
This one is much more straightforward. The binary translates to "do not understa" (in ASCII). I assume the demotivator title reads "DVERSIT", which probably means the picture was cut from a demotivator about adversity. Googling one now. UPD: Can't find it, it's probably custom-made and/or not indexed.

And no, I don't know what exactly this means yet - I stand by "shut up and calculate" approach. But the tweet does seem to hint that we wasted too much time. Oh, and googling that particular rhyme only returns this very tweet.
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Postby narrativedilettante on Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:00 am

Just going to point out that the rhyme is clearly a take on these rhymes from Matt Smith's second season of Doctor Who.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Sat Mar 01, 2014 4:33 am

What I find particular interest off is the bird and egg motif that seems to appear..

And...those big letters under that picture he posted...

Hmmm....

Anything other than Adversity?

Anyway, in case this interests anyone...

Adversity means a difficult or unpleasant situation.

He seems to be undergoing one.

As for the images...is it a tree or an ostrich? I can see some freaky looking eyes...

The bird is laying down...
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Scarab on Sat Mar 01, 2014 1:49 pm

Hang on, so far we have... lolcats and de-motivational/motivational posters and binary. Bit mememish...

Could it be DIVERSITY rather than adversity?
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Sun Mar 02, 2014 3:46 am

Scarab wrote:Hang on, so far we have... lolcats and de-motivational/motivational posters and binary. Bit mememish...

Could it be DIVERSITY rather than adversity?


Ooh, that's a good one.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Dryunya on Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:35 am

There is no room for another 'I'. If anything, the word follows the following regexp (nerd nerd):
[A-Z]*[RPDB]V[EF][PDBR]SIT[A-Z]*
Here [A-Z]* is any number of any letters, [ABC] is A, B or C. "Adversity" is the only thing I could see in there.

Mid-post UPD: I have googled up this handy thingy, and it told me "Perversity" also fits. But if you look closely, 1st and 4th letters in the image are slightly different, so it can't be "Perversity".

Regarding the new tweet - there is nothing I can see in there, except that it disproves my theory that Matrx only posts technical stuff in this thread. Somebody just button-mashed a lot. Most of the characters come from the middle row, so I thought I could assign a 0-9 number to each of them, but there were a couple of characters from other rows, so that approach failed.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:29 am

Dryunya wrote:There is no room for another 'I'. If anything, the word follows the following regexp (nerd nerd):
[A-Z]*[RPDB]V[EF][PDBR]SIT[A-Z]*
Here [A-Z]* is any number of any letters, [ABC] is A, B or C. "Adversity" is the only thing I could see in there.

Mid-post UPD: I have googled up this handy thingy, and it told me "Perversity" also fits. But if you look closely, 1st and 4th letters in the image are slightly different, so it can't be "Perversity".

Regarding the new tweet - there is nothing I can see in there, except that it disproves my theory that Matrx only posts technical stuff in this thread. Somebody just button-mashed a lot. Most of the characters come from the middle row, so I thought I could assign a 0-9 number to each of them, but there were a couple of characters from other rows, so that approach failed.


Just a theory-if he's button mashing then, it can't probably be deciphered, and if he is...well, he's in a hurry or angry or his keyboard hates him.

It's probably the third one.
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby The Wild West Pyro on Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:25 pm

He put up two new tweets:
https://twitter.com/MasteroftheShop/sta ... 9490893824
https://twitter.com/MasteroftheShop/sta ... 7107117056

On March 2:
ERROR IN EFFECT. SYSTEM STRUCTURE DAMAGED. REQUEST FOR HARD RESET PASSWORD IN EFFECT. RETRIEVE HARD RESET PASSWORD Y/N? REPEAT

Yesterday:
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Re: @!!$$%!*!(@)!!$$(!$&

Postby Scarab on Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:37 am

S... uh...

Did Vic's comment work or not? :?
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