Mafia Round 3 - you shouldn't trust anyone

[eli_gone_crazy]

Will the lovers be able to do the revenge murder thing or no?

I'm not Rick, but I'm curious: what do you mean by "revenge murder"?

If one of the lovers dies, then the other dies too out of heartbreak. Does that answer your question?

No. XD

by revenge murder i mean being able to take put a third, not love or cupid player.

[Qara-Xuan Zenith]

Do the Lovers know who the Cupid who chose them is?

[Dryunya]

If Cupid can be chosen from either side, I don't think that makes any difference.

[Pixelmage]

If Cupid can be chosen from either side, I don't think that makes any difference.

Cupid: A regular townsperson who picks two people to be "in love." If those two are the last two standing, they win, regardless of whether they are both town, both mafia, or one of each (the individuals can still win, of course, if their side wins).

I don't think the Cupid is known to the lovers. Specially considering they are town, so, if they shoot hearts to mafia they automatically become a free kill.

[Rick Healey]

To answer a few questions:

Will the lovers be able to do the revenge murder thing or no?

Also, in every version I've played, there's been a black rat. Is that just a thing you don't prefer doing, or have you never had it?

I'm not decided on whether the lovers will be able to do a revenge murder should they go. I will decide when I get a final player count, and I will notify people before the game begins.

I'm also unfamiliar with the black rat role. Keep in mind that I'm most familiar with The Werewolves of Miller's Hollow, which is the commercial version. I probably know the role under a different name. That said, I didn't want to add too many new roles; I could also throw in another five or six different roles that would fit, but look at how many questions there are already just at the cupid and the lovers; adding even more roles could create too much confusion at once.

Okay there's something I have to ask: Are you going to write out over-the-top ridiculous mafia assassinations?

I ask because that's always been a key feature in versions I've played which has been disappointingly absent in the last two rounds.

I've seen it done both ways. Given that we have more time luxury here, I'll do some amount of write-up, although I can't promise that it'll be as elaborate as you're hoping.

Do the Lovers know who the Cupid who chose them is?

Nope. Tragic, really. It could mean that a mafia button person (hey, we're dealing with a remarkably progressive mafia here) could end up shooting the person who united them with their one true love. But hey, if we wanted a friendly forum game, we would have picked canasta or something.

[eli_gone_crazy]

Black rats are normal players, until they've been lynched/offed. Then they can blind kill anyone they suspect/want to kill before they themselves are murdered.

[Rick Healey]

Black rats are normal players, until they've been lynched/offed. Then they can blind kill anyone they suspect/want to kill before they themselves are murdered.

Ah, I'm familiar with that role as The Hunter. I considered adding it, but again, I don't want to introduce more than a couple new roles at a time.

[Rick Healey]

Just to let folks now, I'm going to end sign-ups tomorrow night, and assign roles Monday morning. If you want to play but don't see your name in the first post, respond ASAP.

[Rick Healey]

Okay, the game is set; there are 13 participants. There will be no more than four mafiosi in this game. We will not play with the revenge kill rule for the lovers. Now, to get things started...

In the settlement by the gold mine after the war, there was a huge rush to get to the vein that everyone was certain was present after some nuggets appeared in the nearby stream. But the problem is that where there's wealth, there's crime looking to get that wealth.

Folks were wary of the strangers around town, but when the grizzled old prospector that folks only knew of as "Ol' Footsteps" turned up dead, choked on his own bloody vomit as an acrid smell hung in the air, folks saw only one certainty - the mafia was moving in, and they've already started by poisoning a harmless old coot. But who could be trusted?

[Sophira]

Ol' Footsteps is dead??

...damn. I'm going to find who's at the bottom of this. Nobody kills someone like Footsteps in this here town and gets away with it.

[Qara-Xuan Zenith]

Okay but what if Footsteps committed suicide? Or if it was some private vendetta? There are plenty of people who could have offed him without implying the presence of some sort of organized crime syndicate!

[Anura]

You saying we should just ignore this, Qara? Let it take it's course? I wonder if you'll change your tune when the next death occurs.

[Qara-Xuan Zenith]

You saying we should just ignore this, Qara? Let it take it's course? I wonder if you'll change your tune when the next death occurs.

Is that a threat?

[eli_gone_crazy]

I think it was a threat. I mean, Anura, that's pretty sketch.

[Anura]

You're ganging up on me! You killed Footsteps, and now you're coming for me!

[eli_gone_crazy]

That's.... a pretty big leap in logic.

[Qara-Xuan Zenith]

Anura's the one who keeps taking it as a given that somebody's going to die. Do you have any insider insight on this, Anura? Any future deaths you want to tell us about?

[narrativedilettante]

One thing seems pretty clear to me. Either Anura has lost his moral compass and begun murdering fellow citizens, or Qara and Eli are in on a conspiracy together.

[eli_gone_crazy]

O.o

How does my stepping in to say that someone is threatening a friend of mine considered a conspiracy? I just want to know who or what killed Footsteps, really.

They say he was poisoned, but could it have been an accident?

[narrativedilettante]

I trust our forensics team to identify a poisoning when they see one.

[Pixelmage]

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait... People are dying? O_O

I'll be hiding under my desk if you need me.

[Krika]

I will be with Pix on this one, murderers out in the street are bad for business.

[narrativedilettante]

Someone must be held to blame.

[Victin]

The earlier I begin, the less I have to write. Sophira claims she'll find whomever killed Ol' Footsteps. Qara ponders about other means of him dying besides murder. Anura says that Qara's trying to ignore blatant murder in a threathening way, but doesn't vote in favor of lynching her, which means the threath would be of nighttime murder, and if Qara was ignoring the Mafia kill in the first place she'd have been Mafia and Anura threathening to Mafia kill her and not straight up lynch her would be to distract us at best. Eli agrees with Qara that what Anura said sounded like a threath, and Anura makes the leap of logic to claim Eli and Qara are now threathening him. Qara acts as if we didn't know the meta of the game. Narra points out two options: Anura's Mafia or Qara and Eli are. Seems more like another try at distracting us from they all being together for me but eh. Pixel decides to hide and Krika agrees saying murders are bad. Narra brings up the lynching topic for the first time.

This is interesting. Clearly I don't have enough data but I do want to make a move to get things going, so, I vote for Qara.

[eli_gone_crazy]

That's also a disturbing amount of analysis. Why are we voting to kill people? That won't solve anything.